I was reading a post the other day over at Ravings of a Mad Housewife about friendship. Then I got chatting to a friend about the same thing (see the blog world & the real world do connect!). In short we were thinking about friendship, friends and perhaps the lack of depth, constant connection & fun in our own *real* lives as opposed to that which we see on TV.
For example who watches Friends/Sex in the City or similar and thinks "Gee, that reminds me of my circle of friends and the way we hang out ALL THE TIME?" Mmm, if that's you then that is truly wonderful! I suspect however that you are in the minority. Most of us watch it and think "Gee I wish I had a circle of friends like that." or "What happened to that circle of friends I used to spend so much time with (probably at uni)...oh yeah, marriage, work, kids happened".
I have some amazing friends. Unfortunately most of them live in other states (doh!) and those that do live in Melbourne...well, it's so easy for life and other things (sometimes important, sometimes not) to get in the way of getting together regularly.
Now that I am at home full time, I am sometimes tempted to wish and pray for another full time mum friend who I instantly "click" with. It's so easy when that happens and so much fun too!!
As I think about it though, when I think of my longstanding friends, the ones I am closest too, I am surprised to realise that they are not people who I instantly 'clicked' with. They are people who I got to know through circumstance, life-defining moments and are relationships where both of us have really worked at building and sustaining the friendship. It's with these girls that I feel safe, and it's with them that I can be vulnerable and honest. They are like family.
In my life there have been occasions where I have met people and instantly "clicked" with them. We've become close and spent huge amounts of time together. Interestingly when I look back, while I wouldn't swap a minute of those friendships (they were a wonderful gift for the time the existed) they are not the lifetime friendships I thought they would be. The lifetime friendships have developed with people who I would never have expected to have that connection with! Yet the bond is strong and lasting and I am so thankful for those women (Miss Awesome. Mrs Delicious. Mrs Papadapadopolous to name a few).
It's not the girls I've instantly 'clicked' with that are like sisters to me today, it's the girls who I've worked at building a friendship with that are my Rachel, Monica's & yes, even Pheobe's!
As I meet new people and start new friendships in this season of life, I am tempted to seek out people I "click" with. It would just be great to meet someone with whom I could have an easy and deep relationship with quickly. However, I would be better off taking heed of my life experiences so far and building lasting friendships with people of integrity, sincerity, kindness and faith. I am thankful that there are plenty of people like that around me and I am really enjoying getting to know them (Caro!).
It's been really helpful to reflect on what really makes a friendship and I have been really encouraged to realise that a true and lasting friendship is one that builds over time as you go through life with one another. Whether that friendship starts with an instant "click" or whether it grows as you get to know one another it doesn't matter, it's what you choose to make of it.
What do you think? Am I on my own with this or does some of this ring true for you too?
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Wednesday, 8 October 2008
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And once again, Louisa's on the money. Isn't it funny what life serves up. I was thinking just yesterday about some friends I made when I first moved to Melbourne, it seemed like we were so close at the time and had so much in common but life and circumstance seemed to just mean that over time the friendship died. The day I woke up and realised I needed to WORK to make friendship happen felt both confining and releasing. I no longer had to feel guilt for the friends I 'gave up' but it also taught me which of my friends were for real and which ones to put the effort into. Let's just say, I still have a way to go here!
(Sorry this is so long, but I know you'll read it Lou!)
Love G
Great post Lou,
I've always found these kind of issues a struggle: guilt over lapsed friendships, un-contentment that I don't have the kind of friendships I want, disappointment that friends aren't always there when I need them. Moving's really made me realise how good I had it- and made me more willing to appreciate what I have. I've also realised how important relationships with family is. I have friends I suspect I will have forever- but the constancy of family relationships (particularly after moving) is comforting and wonderful. I spent so much of my teenage years praying for a best friend- only to work-out that without realising it, my sister was really fulfilling that role all along- I just wasn't realising how rare and special that is.
love B
Hey Lou!!!
What a lovely post!! I wonder a lot myself about friendships. As I have had great experiences as well as relationships that ended up with tears!!! I often talk about this with frieds as well!!!
I am defenitely enjoying this new frienship that we are building!!!
Love
Caro
G'day Lou,
I can't comment on Belinda's blog because I refuse to get one myself (I spend enough time on the internet as it is... and I know I'd be too much of a perfectionist to keep it up!)... but I can comment on yours! I see you're doing a makeover for Bee... that's really fun! I vote for orange... her blog is far too pink ;) I'm sure you'll do a great job... yours looks great!
It was interesting to read your post on friendship... it's funny I feel like WE were friends who "clicked", but haven't ended up spending much time together over the years! I've got a few friendships like that, and I'm probably not alone in sometimes feeling sad or guilty -like there were lost opportunities for close friendships. But I think I'm learning (slowly) to be content in the relationships God has given me (which a many and wonderful!!) and the way circumstances have played out to make that happen.
As you know I've been living in community at SMBC for the last three years, and I think that time has demonstrated what you are saying. One of my best college buddies and I often thank God that we were put in a house together in our first semester, because we are really quite different, and probably wouldn't have naturally "clicked".
Anyway... first comment on your blog and I've turned it into an essay! It's great to see this record of what you're up to and your gorgeous little one...
Love Fiona
PS: I'll be back in Melbourne next year... it'd be fun to catch up!
Hi Louisa. What you have said is true. Real friendships have to be workd on. I have only a small circle of friends, but if I can not see or contact them for a while, when I do, its like that break was never there.
Hey friends! Thanks for your comments.
Glenda - it's so true. Like a marriage relationship, friendships too require work and grace and the best friendships are based on a mutual effort on both parts. As life gets busier I think grace becomes an even more important aspect of friendships.
B - yes, you are so lucky to have that friendship in Sandy!! Funny, it was when I moved to Melbourne that I really realised how much I appreciated my sister too. Living in Melb, as thankful as I am for my friends here I also realise how lucky I am with friends in Sydney.
Caro, you rock! Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow :)
Fi, Yes, Yes & Yes! I think initially it was the distance between us (logistically) and my lack of a car. Then I met the HH and so much time went into that relationship...excuses, excuses. Bottom line - I would totally LOVE to catch up and renew our friendship when you move back here. All that said, I really appreciated the friendship you (&B & others) offered me when I first moved down here. You were a real gift to me and I am so thankful for it! I so hear what you are saying about the friend you talked about not clicking with but being put in the same dorm as. I have friends like that and I too am so thankful that we were 'forced' (for lack of a better term) to be friends due to circumstance because I now can't imagine my life without them!
Dee - I know what you mean. I think they are the best friendships!!
Thanks everyone for visiting and leaving your comments!!
Question: For those of us who have moved, do you think that it's harder to establish lasting and close friendships later in life? especially if you move with your husband/partner?
Great post. Sorry it has taken me so long to get over here! You clued me into this post when I was a Saucy blog. Life has gotten in the way but I'm finally coming to visit!
Friends to me, are more valuable that most family members. My friends are the ones that have been there for me through the years. The ones I turn to in trouble.
Hi Sassy, thanks for stopping by. Friends are so valuable and it's such a blessing to have good ones!!
Wonderful post!
I think that lasting friendships are built exactly as you say-over a long period of time, through many life experiences. Then again, my husband is my very best friend and 90% of my other friends are bloggy friends, so I think I might not have the 'normal' experience.
Thanks for the great post =)
AMEN! and beautiful post!
My lasting friendships are made of both. Many times, I have had a friend I clicked with and then have met other really great friends through that person. What a wonderful post though - sometimes people come into our lives for a reason! Happy SITS day!
Excellent post! This rings so true!
I have met some wonderful new friends through blogging and reconnected with old friends through Facebook. Unfortunately, most of these, no actually all of these online friendships are long distance. (Cool that I'm commenting on my first Aussie blog!)Its sometimes difficult to make friends in a city like Las Vegas because its such a transient place. Had some great friends but they all moved away.
You are so insightful. I totally agree with you too!
I agree, friendships take work. Personally, I've seen a lot of friendships fall by the wayside as life gets in the way, especially after my kiddo was born. I was kind of the first one in my (albeit small) circle of friends to have a baby, and I think they feel like they can't relate to me anymore, which is unfortunate. I think, though, that perhaps some of those friendships were just not meant to be - it showed me which friends were really in it for the longhaul, you know? Super, super post.
Happy SITS Day. What a compliment to be the featured blogger. I'm always thrilled to discover new blogs. This was a fabulous post.
My closest friends are the ones I've had forever - since I was in school. I find it harder to develop close relationships like those now - maybe because back then, we were pretty much in the same place but nowadays, everyone is in different places in their lives?
A friendship is what you make of it(as is many things in lif).
Happy SITS Day! I DO think that having another SAHM to connect with makes life much more fun and easier. When my oldest daughter was two months old, I met another new mom and we were inseparable for several years. Those were some happy times and having Sally in my life made being home a lot more enjoyable. I hope you find the same.
I totally agree. I have had some friends who have come in and out of my life for brief periods of time and then there are those who I will always be friends with, even if I don't see them regularly.
I've been struggling with the friend thing ever since I became a Mom. I hope that I get better at it because it's lonely over here!
HAPPY SITS DAY!
You are oh, so right.
I am a friendly person. I make friends easily. However, my husband and my babies take priority (along with my job), and without enough time to devote to some friends, it just doesn't work out like it does on TV.
Great post! Happy SITS day!
I have a hard time making friends and I do have to work at it. For me it's usually not about "clicking" either. At least, not instantly.
I agree. The friendships I thought would last forever didn't. We lose contact for many reasons.
Hold on to those true friends!! They will be your real friends from across countries, over time and through thick and thin!! :) Great post. I think us ladies can all relate to this in some shape or form! :)
Right on the money!
this is a great post. I don't know where I would be without my girlfriends!
Oh it is so true. I find motherhood is really hard on friendships. Happy SITS day.
I tend to be bad at making friendships work. But the friends I do have? I am EXTREMELY grateful for!
Happy SITS Day! =)
What a wonderful post. My husband and I were talking the other day, as I was discussing how one of the Moms I know is going on a cruise with 7 of her closest friends from school; no kids, just the girls, for 9 whole days!! But I don't have that many friends, let alone ones THAT close. My husband says that I'm just not a "girlfriend, BFF" type of person, too reserved. And I think I am too. We've never been "friends" type people, as in having a "gang" to hang out and do everything with. I think we're too private for that.
That being said, as a mother, I have forged new relationships with other Moms, some closer as we get to know each other better over the years.
I felt an instant "click" when I met my now roommate, though we didn't get close until nearly a year later. Most of my friendships do start off with with a bang, but then some are gradual. I'll take both!
I can relate. I often look at those TV shows and wish I had friends like that...
happy sits day .
Some of my best friends are people I grew up with, so yes while maybe our friendships at first were easy, we have been through A LOT of thick & thin. Great post!
Friendship is one of those elusive things in life that always surprises you.
Friendships are so important. Many of my closest friends live far away. We moved to where we live not about a year ago.
Hi, stopping by via SITS.
I can relate to much of this. Especially since I've moved twice in the past four years, I find myself missing close friendships & negatively comparing my situation to that of my tv friends like "S&TC". It just takes that dreaded time & patience, doesn't it?
Great, great post.
Well said! I have many aquaintences and a handful of wonderful friends.
Most of us watch it and think "Gee I wish I had a circle of friends like that." or "What happened to that circle of friends I used to spend so much time with (probably at uni)...oh yeah, marriage, work, kids happened".Life happens, and one simply does not have time,.. I have lost touch with a lot of my friends when I moved from the city to a smaller town,.. my professional life is quite hectic and most of my friends just did not understand that I could no longer just break away for a weekend. But I had a chance to learn who my real friends are,.. and my best friend is always just a phone call away. She is absolutely amazing,..been there through horrible break ups, family tragedies,.. And she is living miles away,.. So, yes, I have one of those 'made for TV' friendships,... It is amazing.
Most of us watch it and think "Gee I wish I had a circle of friends like that." or "What happened to that circle of friends I used to spend so much time with (probably at uni)...oh yeah, marriage, work, kids happened".Life happens, and one simply does not have time,.. I have lost touch with a lot of my friends when I moved from the city to a smaller town,.. my professional life is quite hectic and most of my friends just did not understand that I could no longer just break away for a weekend. But I had a chance to learn who my real friends are,.. and my best friend is always just a phone call away. She is absolutely amazing,..been there through horrible break ups, family tragedies,.. And she is living miles away,.. So, yes, I have one of those 'made for TV' friendships,... It is amazing.
Visiting from SITS!
Since having kids, I have no friends (Unless blog friends count). My DH and my kids are my friends and I enjoy hanging out with them.
Now that I'm getting older and my kids have friends of their own, I find that I can still click with people, but it's usually the moms of my kids' friends. Very rarely do I get to pick my own anymore. I'm just grateful that I've been able to find any friends at all after having kids, since my life revolves around them anyway!
Happy SITS!
You know, I am only recently figuring this out. You are so right!
I have often wished for a circle of friends like Rachel, Monica & Phobe. I used to have that in college. But you are so right, life gets in the way.
Now I have friends with other life situations and well, we make do.
My Mom had a great set of friends on our street when I was growing up. They were all stay at home mom's back then and they always seemed have a great time while we were at school.
Great post. Love your blog.
Having real friends is like having a bigger family and a family is the most precious treasure one can have on this planet. But it's true, life sometimes separates us and makes it difficult to keep in touch. I move all the time (my husband is military), I have made some great friends and left them behind. We email once in a while but we never see each other anymore and I soooo miss them. I miss talking to them, sharing lunch, going to the gym together, laughing at silly jokes, cry over sad movies, you know, nothing special just the everyday insignificant little things....just be us...
"How to keep in touch with your friends?" that could be an interesting conversation as well..
You know, I had this conversation (about friends) with a good friend of mine just last month. She told me a very sad story. She had an High School BF. They were inseparable, always together. After college they started working, then got married and had babies and went their separate ways. They would send each other B-day/Christmas cards every year though but that's about all the communication they had left...They too, were too busy with the babies, the hubby, the job, the life...My friend told me that each time she would receive a card from her old friend, she would promise herself she would call her and catch up...and days and months went by..and she was still receiving the cards and was still thinking about calling her, and meanwhile the busy life was passing by...and years later she finally decided she will find her phone number and will call her. She was going to do it for real this time. She went on the internet and found a blog about her. Her husband was writting a blog about her battle with cancer. When she finally found the time to call, it was too late, her BF had passed away leaving behind husband and two young babies.
So ladies, what I'm trying to say (and I'm telling myself at the same time) is cherish your friends, don't assume they will always be there, tell them you love them and don't wait until tomorrow, next week, next month...don't wish you would have...do it!
Sorry for writing such a long post...I don't normally do that but this subject is close to my heart.
Love to all of you..
oh and have a great sits day!
I have had friendships that I thought would last forever but people drift apart and start wanting different things for their lives. Sometimes we all don't jive anymore. I'm grateful for the people in my life now! Great post!
I have never in my whole life had a circle of girlfriends, such as the one you pointed out on Friends or Sex in the City. I don't think I'm a girl that girls like to hang around with or something. I don't really know what it's like to have friends. Or family for that matter, I was pretty much raised by wolves. (metaphorically speaking of course) Sometimes I am very jealous of the girlfriend phenomenon and sad that I am not a part of it. And, then, sometimes it baffles me that a girl can't make a decision, pick out a pair of shoes, or potty without consulting 3 other girls.
What a wonderful post! Awww my best friends live in other states too.
Lifelong friends are few and far between. I have 2 out of state that I have counted on for almost 20 years!
Happy SITS Day!
I agree with you. My oldest and dearest friend lives out of state and I hardly ever see her. We do talk quite a bit though. I moved to a new area and I have yet to click with anyone here!
I agree completely. I've found that a lot of my friendships were simply based on proximity, and once the circumstances change it's interesting to see who sticks around.
It's not hard with the ones who matter. I'm all for quality over quantity.
I'm with you. You've pretty much described my situation.
And now that I'm older, and have WAY different priorities and focus, I'm ok with the long distance/forever friends. I don't have the time or inclination to sustain the shorter friendships - I sometimes feel bad for that, but oh well :)
wonderful post!! i agree about the seasons of life... we tend to make and keep different friendships at different points in our lives.
Great post!
All very true. I think it is harder than ever to make and keep friends with everyone so caught up in their own "thing"
It is very true. That is why I love facebook...I can chat with people whom I have been friends with for a long time. I also believe that we are given certain friends at certain times in our lives..they are a gift to help us through. Great post!
Awesome post! Very true for me. I truly believe that everyone comes in to your life at the time that you need them and they need you. Sometimes they stay and build lasting meaningful relationships and sometimes they don't and for those you at least had their friendship for a little while. I saw a quote once that I just love, "FRIENDS are the FAMILY that you meet along the way." One of my favorites and one I have in Vinyl on my wall above all our family/friend pictures. Have a great day.
I think friendships evolve over time. Sometimes we realize that what brought us together originally doesnt keep us together as friends. Sometimes people you would have never saw yourself being friends with become lifelong friends. I think true friendships grow and change as we grow and change
Happy SITS Day.
This post is EXACTLY what I think about all the time. I have a few friends who are the greatest best friends a girl could have, but they are all seperate from each other. I wish I had a group of girlfriends who I could hang out with TOGETHER. Go out and have a girls night, etc. But I am greatful for the gfriends I do have. They are the best.
True, true...good friends are great but you have to work hard at it!
Jamie :)
I do think that people you click with instantly are great, but ... when you have to work at a relationship and invest time and energy into it, you're right -- it does seem to do better. But even those can fade, depending on the situation. It's really the friends who will stick with you in those defining moments when the chips are down, those are the ones who will be there forever. And you never know who they are until you need them.
I have a small handful of girlfriends and I agree, you do have to work hard at it. But the payoff is so worth it. To know that you can rely on them (and vice versa) no matter what is what it's all about.
What a profound thought. I believe it is true that while many friends come and go, those who have struggled the most with you seem to be the ones who stick by your side. I wonder if it is because they have seen your soul and are now connected with you. Regardless, friends are vital to life.
Happy SITS Day.
Oh, this rings SO true with me. I am constantly "looking" for a friend who is in my same position. In my case, full time working mommy, available on weekends or the occasional weeknight. It just doesn't work. I don't think they can be "found" like that, and all my greatest friends are those who I struggled with (and now live in a city 2 hours away). Thanks for your clear vision on this!
I've never had those kinds of ties in my life. But I DO pray for a bosom friend. Someone I click with and relate with. Someone that can be here for me and I for her. I dont have that. all i have is my husband.
I have a friend that has been buddy since the second grade. Even though we don't speak everyday, when we do see each other it's like we never left off. Everyone needs a friend like that.
I agree. Friendship is work! It's easy to find friends when you are a child or when you are in college. Friendships just happen. They don't happen so easily once you are working or are a stay-at-home mom.
the thing is...the older i get, the more i appreciate just how much work is required to nurtured a meaningful friendship. my friends mean more to me. i have fewer of them (real ones, that is) but the ones i have are precious and dear...and worth every minute i invest in our relationships.
Great post! I totally agree! I often wish I had a group of girlfriends like I did back in the day, but life is just too complicated to maintain those kinds of relationships now.
I think you're right - we seek out day-to-day friends who are experiencing what we are. High school BFFs, workmates, uni buddies, school mums - it helps to have a common ground.
But the deepest friendships have more than this, I think. There is a bond of more than just our external lives that keeps friends together over many years. My closest friends are people who I just want to be with because who they are delights me.
You have written some thought provoking posts. I have known my best friend since I was 2 we grew up together never went to the same school and now don't even live in the same state, but she is my sister at heart, the one i never had. I cherish all of my friendships and try really hard to maintain them though it takes a lot of work. It is nice to have a varitety of friends like you mentioned.
For me, my closest friends and I clicked instantly. These friendships have grown over the years and developed depths I never expected; they stand by me through thick and thin. I am so thankful for my fabulous friends!
I like to think that I have both. Lately though the friends I turn to are my bloggy friends. To bad most of them live out of state:(
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